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Posted on Thursday Jul 25, 2013 at 3:52 PM  
My shad aren't staying alive very long no matter how lively they are when I take them from the bait tank. I'm trying to get them on the hook quickly and into the water. I've tried smaller hooks to no avail. After I left the lake last night I realized that when I have been putting them in the lake I've been holding them in the first foot or two of water until they got over the shock of the warmer lake water. I'm starting to think this might be a bone head thing to do and that I should get them down to cooler lake water asap. Any thoughts?
Posted on Thursday Jul 25, 2013 at 3:57 PM  
How much cooler is your bait tank water?
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Posted on Thursday Jul 25, 2013 at 4:13 PM  
No ice added, just tap water conditioned with salt, chlorine remover and shad keeper. It is an insulated Grayline 40 gallon tank. I need to buy a thermometer but it is definitely cooler than the lake water because the shad curl up when I put them in the lake.
Posted on Thursday Jul 25, 2013 at 7:02 PM  
I wouldn't worry about it to much. Just keep them above the thremocline. Sometimes when you get them down, and their doing all of that spazzing it will trigger a strike.
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Posted on Thursday Jul 25, 2013 at 8:47 PM  
You could be using too much salt - shad will get bent(curl up) when you take them from a high osmotic water(your tank) to a lower (lake water) - For a 40 gallon tank 1.5 cups of salt is sufficient - then if you add some kind of bait saver too,likely you are adding too much salt - all commercial bait savers are primarily food colored salt - A 12V bubbler with airstones will help a lot - normally on my 40 gallon I would add an 8# bag of ice(left in bag) to the tank after I stocked the tank, had no problems keeping lively shad - You could also have tap water with cloramine - next time fill your tank with lake water, get your filter going, add ice as suggested, then add your bait - I think you will see a difference -
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Posted on Thursday Jul 25, 2013 at 8:57 PM  
Thanks a bunch. I had no idea that the curling could have something to do with the salt content. That makes perfect sense since my water isn't that cold by the time I catch the shad and get to the lake. I live in Tulsa and I don't know if the tap water has cloramine. Tony, where do you get the 12v pump? I noticed you recommended extra oxygen in another post.
Posted on Thursday Jul 25, 2013 at 9:19 PM  
Understand an aerator DOES NOT CHANGE O2 content of a bait tank - no matter the claims to the contrary - what fine bubbles do however is attach to ammonia ions in the water column and as they rise to the top OUTGAS ammonia a by product of shad respiration and pooping in your tank (why you can get a stiff foam from aeration/agitation The more ammonia you can out gas the happier your crowded tank will be I use a power bubbles from Bass Pro - 12V with two airstones around $60 Bux THE only way you you can raise O2 levels would be with an airstone /injecting pure O2 from a bottle - Air pumps pump atmospheric air which is primarily nitrogen at 78%. O2 at 21%. with Co2 and trace other gasses Just remember that cooler water retains and will absorb more O2 up to saturation point at temperature level, as water heats up and atoms become more separated it can't hold as much O2
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Posted on Thursday Jul 25, 2013 at 9:26 PM  
Going to BassPro tomorrow! And Tulsa does now add chloramine to their water supply. Does the LCR not remove chloramine?
Posted on Thursday Jul 25, 2013 at 9:56 PM  
Tony, I think your right about the bubblers taking ammonia to the surface. And, if you've got a small surface area tank, the ammonia dissipation is even more of a challenge. Hey, just wondering how you came across the word "Outgas"? Something from your work history? Few people ever use that word. I've worked on German medical equipment for decades - and as I understood it, "Outgas" was a translation from the German word "Getter". Just wondering.
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Posted on Friday Jul 26, 2013 at 6:03 PM  
Any sci-fi nut (like myself) should be familiar with "outgas"! Two Stormtroopers: "What was that?" "Probably just some outgassing." Then Obi-wan crosses the walkway behind them.....
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