I want to try out Power Pro.
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Posted on Thursday Jul 11, 2013 at 8:16 PM  
Have only fished with mono ever. What's a good #test to try out or start with? I know its kinda pricey. Tips? What not to do? What to do? Knots& anything else you guys can think of.Will be using it on a 7ft With spinning gear. Thanks in advance
Posted on Thursday Jul 11, 2013 at 9:17 PM  
What kind of fish do you fish for? I have a couple rigs like that, one's a lighter rig for panfish, the other is a more "general all around" rig that can do a lot of things. I have 10# test on the lighter rig, and 20# test on the medium rig. Both rigs have a little mono for backing, to keep the line from spinning on the spool. I use an Albright Knot to tie the braid to the mono, then fill the spool with braid. Most reels suggest filling the spool to within 1/8" of the lip. I wouldn't put that much on, personally. I usually have to much line on the spool, and have to trim some off. In years past, I've always used a swivel at the end of the braid, then tied some mono on for a leader. Both knots were Improved Clinch knots. I've recently started to really pay attention to what Tony says. I've started leaving the swivel out altogether, and using an Albright knot, tying on a leader of Flouro, about 5' long, then whatever lure. You will notice, especially with the 10# PowerPro, that it tends to "hang" in the air on long casts. I actually notice this on all of my rigs, up to my catfish rigs with 40# test braid. You'll probably notice a little increased distance, due to the smaller line diameter. One of these days, I'm going to work up the nerve to respool my UL rig with 6# test braid. That stuff is smaller than human hair!
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Posted on Thursday Jul 11, 2013 at 9:32 PM  
I like the Power Pro in the bright yellow so I can see movement in the line better but I use a piece of leader material for the type of fishing I do. A lot of people use it without leaders and it works fine for them. I like to use 10 lb. test on medium spinning rod for hybrids when fishing with 1/4 oz. jigs and swim baits, and use 14 lb. for heavier spoons and spinners. The line is a little bit stiff until you have fished with it for a day or two but you will have less trouble with loops coming off the reel than mono and it will last longer. Be sure to put a little bit of mono on the spool before putting the PP on to prevent it from spinning on the spool and when you feel the line is getting a little worn just reverse ends on the spool. I use two uni-knots to join line and leader together with extra wraps on the PP and use 10 lb. fluorocarbon for leader. I also use the Fireline Crystal pretty much the same way and have caught Stripers up to 17lbs. on 14lb. line below Ft. Gibson Dam. It is tough stuff and will cut your fingers and hands if you try to break it. I carry a short piece of broom handle in the boat to wrap it around should I have to break it.
Posted on Thursday Jul 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM  
I use 10lb pp slick on my crappie jig rod. Saves a lot of jigs. Had 10lb on my 7ft medium spin rod but didn't like the wind knots I would get on super long casts. Switched back to 8lb stren super knot. Although I do use 35lb pp on my jig & pig rod, really nice sensitivity when fishing deep structure.
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Posted on Saturday Jul 13, 2013 at 10:01 AM  
Like I said I just want to give it a shot. I be spooling it for all around fishing. Like what ever wants to hit know what I'm saying. I usually change lures frequently. I normally use test between 8 & 10 lb Tell me about some knots I could tie. Would adding a swivel to the main line would help? Like I said I just want to try it out.
Posted on Saturday Jul 13, 2013 at 3:53 PM  
I've used Improved Clinched Knots and the Albright Knot successfully with braid. Heck, I've even done a weird catfish rig, snelling a small hook with braid, and snelling that to a much bigger hook. I tied it, mainly to prove to myself that it could be done. I use swivels a lot, and it helps with the knot tying. However, most swivels won't go through the eyes on poles well. If I want to tie on a really LONG leader, I'll forgo the swivel and use an Albright Knot.
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Posted on Saturday Jul 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM  
10 lb. is stronger than what you have been using and cast much better than the 8 lb. mono. Once you break in the line and it limbers up I think you will like it. Personally I do not use swivels unless it is necessary to prevent lures that twist the line from doing so or fishing a Carolina rig but I believe tying line and leader to the swivel rings is stronger than tying them line to leader. The knot that I have used for 35 years is the improved clinch knot that AllenOk mentioned but I double the line and tie it. You will have a loop and a tag end to clip off when finished and need to take more care pulling the wraps down uniformly but it is really a tough knot when tied properly. To prevent loops from occurring when casting a spinning reel you flip the bail over just before the lure hits the water to take the slack out of the line thus preventing extra line from spilling off the reel. This may take a little practice but will cut down on bird nest in the reel.
Posted on Saturday Jul 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM  
For line to lure I have always used a double polamer knot, and for braid to mono a double uni knot. http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/double-uni-knot
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Posted on Sunday Jul 14, 2013 at 9:09 AM  
Will PP help assist me in getting stuck lures out of hangups? Lost a jointed swim bait in the rocks below kaw last night& 2 hd's well one was a Unknown fish that hit it and took off. I'm definitely going to try it out. You guys think 10#PP would be good enough? I don't toss real heavy lures and I rarely use bait. Sick of losing lures to mono.
Posted on Sunday Jul 14, 2013 at 8:39 PM  
I will say it ONE MORE TIME -braid is not a good choice in ROCKS - there is so much of that crap busted off below dams it makes it nearly impossible to fish - Mono is much more forgiving in rocks Braid is a good choice when you have offshore reels, open water, OR you are fishing stumps - even at that you have to change to softer rods, and lighter drags or you will break off MORE not less - On a straight pull, braid, pound for pound is tougher than mono - but it will NOT stand a sudden shock load and it will cut easily in rocks -
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Posted on Sunday Jul 14, 2013 at 10:29 PM  
Okay,Tony. What Mono Would you recommend? I want to at least try braid out.I want the best fishing line my money can buy. I want it light in the test department&strong as nails.
Posted on Sunday Jul 14, 2013 at 11:07 PM  
8lb stren super knot, fished it two years in a row and love it. Held up to a lot of 5-8lb stripers and several 10lb hybrids.
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Posted on Monday Jul 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM  
For sheer outer toughness in a line Ande brands are hard to nick, BUT there are tradeoffs - the harder outer shells mono isn't very compatible with spinning gear - Ande Back Country works well with spinning gear (what it was designed for), my personal preference is mostly Trilene Sensation now - but that's like comparing Apples to Apples - there are so many similar lines out there today Overall harder lines work better in tailraces/rocks,structure, softer line work better with spinning gear and normally are less nick resistant - Years ago when I was a hard core tailrace fisherman, I wouldn't buy anything but Big Game Line and its still a tough line - what I look for now in a line is small diameter, low stretch, low refraction, a breaking strength over rating, and knot strength Whats likely important for tailraces is a cheap line that's castable, because no matter what you are going to get hung up a lot and you are going to loose tackle - its just a given for the territory - when you bust off a 100 yards of braid you are out some $$$$$ and you then create a line wad out in the fishing hole that breaks and hangs up EVERYONE
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Posted on Monday Jul 15, 2013 at 1:02 PM  
I agree with Tony. I fish a lot of rivers and tailwaters and hate braided line in that application. The heavier lines are almost impossible to break off and as Tony said, you have to cut it and leave 100yds of braided line floating out in the river. I can't count how many times I've gotten hung up on a mass of braided line in the middle of a river. I use mostly P-Line Cx Premium monofilament. It's lower diameter than most other monofilaments and has great knot strength. I believe it is similar to Trilene Sensation. I use 8lb for whites and hyrbids and 15lb on my baitcaster for Striper.
Posted on Tuesday Jul 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM  
And that is the reason for using a leader of lesser breaking strength no matter what line you use. It saves the main line and leaves less broken line in the rivers and lakes. Break the leader and you still have a reel full of line to fish with, break the main line and you may have a half empty reel to fish with. Braid or fused line will work well when used with a mono or fluorocarbon leader. I fish below Ft. Gibson dam with a surf rod with thirty to forty pound braid but always use a lighter leader just in case I get snagged. If you are tying direct to the main line I don't care what kind of line you are using you will leave more line in the river when you break off because the weak spot in the line can be any where between the rod and lure. I have pulled many yards of old line out of the river both mono and braid and removed several yards of line from my propeller shaft, this is just part of fishing especially below spillways.
Posted on Tuesday Jul 16, 2013 at 2:37 PM  
Thumbs up here on P-Line Cx Premium and Sensation monofilament.
Posted on Tuesday Jul 16, 2013 at 3:48 PM  
I agree with that Chief , but his question was directed to getting his baits back when hung up-- in which case braid won't help much if at all --
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Posted on Tuesday Jul 16, 2013 at 6:10 PM  
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Originally posted by chiefangler
And that is the reason for using a leader of lesser breaking strength no matter what line you use. It saves the main line and leaves less broken line in the rivers and lakes. Break the leader and you still have a reel full of line to fish with, break the main line and you may have a half empty reel to fish with. Braid or fused line will work well when used with a mono or fluorocarbon leader....
That's exactly what I do! I've only broken braid a handful of times. I know a lot of times, I'll get hung on a mass of line below Keystone. You know you're hung on line, when start feeling little pops coming through the line and pole, and the pole starts moving away from the water in fits and spurts. Finally, it will all break loose, and I'll pull in a mass of line, with my hook hung in it, and there are usually 3 - 5 other weights, and a couple lures, hung in it as well.
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Posted on Tuesday Jul 16, 2013 at 6:17 PM  
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Originally posted by Tony_Hughes
I agree with that Chief , but his question was directed to getting his baits back when hung up-- in which case braid won't help much if at all --
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you as well, Tony. If a person is tying direct to braid, and that lure gets hung, you stand a good chance of breaking off a mass of braided line in the water, or, you'll severely damage the lure retrieving it. I expect to loose gear. I plan on it. I try to keep terminal gear cheap, so that I'm not out a bunch of money if I have a bad day in snaggy areas. Cheap jigs and soft plastics, split shot, hooks, etc. I have lots of clearance lures that I've been buying in the past 6 months. The most expensive lures I have are some Rapala plugs that top out a little over $8. I just don't see the reason to buy really expensive lures, when there are cheaper things out there that do the same thing. I also tend not to fish expensive plugs in really snaggy areas.
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Posted on Sunday Jul 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM  
I recently respooled my ultra light trout reels with 20lb/6lb dia. PP braid and was thourghly impressed with it. I did use a 4lb mono leader while fishing with powerbait eggs. When throwing a little mepps spinner I tied it directly to the braid and really liked it as well. The only problem I had was on one of the reels I couldn't tie the braid directly to the spool. If I did the braid would just spin on the spool. At first I thought the reel was broke and then I realized what the problem was. What I did to fix the problem was just tied about 6 feet of mono to the braid and then respooled the reel.
                                                                    



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