The Skiatook Fishery
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Posted on Wednesday Jun 9, 2010 at 1:34 PM  
A good example of a case by case basis Bill -- no different from Largemouth management principles

Sooner could use an unlimited harvest for hybrids like it used to have It just doesn't get enough pressure -- I would rather see half hybrids, half Striped bass there
Posted on Wednesday Jun 9, 2010 at 3:55 PM  
I agree with you. We started that strategy in the early 2000s. Problem was, the hybrids come off before the stripers at the hatchery. We would get 27,000 hybrids stocked instead of the 54,000, but then the stripers wouldn't make! We ended up with only one-half the hybrids in the lake that year! Not Good! It happened like that more than once Tony!! BUT, we did get the mix stocked several years! Yea! Sooner has excellent water quality for Oklahoma, stratification is much deeper allowing the stipers to find the cooler waters that are unavailable to them in many other reservoirs! We won't give up on stocking stripers there! Seen too many over 30 pounds comming out of there to quit!
Posted on Wednesday Jun 9, 2010 at 4:54 PM  
I agree. Great discussion. If somone wanted a quick lesson in hybrids, this is the thread to read.
Posted on Wednesday Jun 9, 2010 at 9:40 PM  
And, Bill will be the guest speaker at the June OSBA meeting.
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Posted on Wednesday Jun 9, 2010 at 11:18 PM  
One of the best meetings of each year.
I'll be there.
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Posted on Friday Jun 25, 2010 at 1:19 AM  
Doesn't make sense to me, we have liberalized striper limits when Keystone was in it's heyday and now we fail to tighten up on them when it declined. Could get in to a long discussin' on this, but just want to say I hope someone will wake up and smell the coffee, big stripers and potential in the rivers. Fillet knifes are deadly. ODWC is dang near guilty of promoting want and waste on this one. Wack 'em and stack 'em is for the rednecks, the rest of us would like to see more quality.
Posted on Thursday Aug 2, 2012 at 5:18 PM  
I'm glad to see the limits stiffen a bit in oklahoma. It'll only make the fishing better than it already is.

In co, you can only keep 10 white bass. In most lakes, wipers (hybrids) are a bait control fish and are discouraged from harvest with strict regulations. People bust your chops here for keeping them anyway... I don't get why they aren't viewed the same in oklahoma, since they are a fish that does not spawn.
Posted on Thursday Aug 2, 2012 at 8:48 PM  
I don't know who n/a is but I'm glad he's not around anymore. Talk about an opinionated son of a gun!
Posted on Friday Aug 3, 2012 at 5:41 AM  
Dave, The wildlife department will tell you they manage the Hybrids for a put n take fish. We grow our own. I am not sure if Co. does or not. I can see if you had to buy from other states or trade with other states why you would manage that way. But they have always told us they set the limits to take the Hybrids when you want. They are put in our lakes for a couple of reasons, one for the sporting nature of the fish(I dont know why anybody wold ever fish for a green perch if they have ever caught a Hybrid ) and two,to help control the shad population. In my opinion something needs to be done in Keystone for the shad population. But they don't want to put the Hybrids there because they don't want them mixing with the Striper population. They say the Hybrids will spawn under certain conditions. But, the Hybrids are starting to show up in Keystone because they are coming down the Arkansas from Kaw.
I don't believe in Miracles, I rely on them.
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Posted on Monday Aug 6, 2012 at 9:52 PM  
We tend to say what ODWC thinkin' a few years back. I think they musta figuired it did not matter to mix hybrid and striper when they started stocking birds in Kaw. I've seen and heard of several 60lb 5 fish limits of striper below Kaw this year. That to me is an overharvest depleting the resource, but legal this year. That area is about as big as a watershed lake with tons of pressure.

On Skiatook, looks like the threadfin stocking may have put some weight on those hybrids.

I haven't heard what the new striper limit is, but if they will limit the big stripers to two, like they do in Texoma, it will be good. Long time coming
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