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Posted on Monday Jul 8, 2013 at 8:58 AM  
I'm thinking seriously about buying a Greyline baittank. My questions are does the shape of the tank make a difference to the shad? Is a solid lid better than a molded one? Would a 24 or 30 gallon tank hold enough bait for two fisherman for a day trip? Thanks in advance. These things are pricey and I want to get the best one for my needs.
Posted on Monday Jul 8, 2013 at 1:20 PM  
I'd go for at least a thirty gallon for two fisherman - you can usually keep about 60-80 3-5" baits in that size PROVIDED you use a couple of 12V air pumps and stones - even in the Greyline this will help your bait tremendously -- All Greyline are oval or round -so no worries there I want Sunshine to make me a slimline oval that holds 35 gallons - Look also at Creekbankbaittanks.com Its nice to have a manf tank --
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Posted on Monday Jul 8, 2013 at 1:47 PM  
Thanks Tony. I made a homemade tank last year and it’s been nothing but disappointment. Water splashes all over the boat and my shad usually die. I think my biggest problems are lack of aeration and the tank is uninsulated. I guess that what I get for building something I don’t really know anything about Now I’m just tired of messing with it. It looks like the Creek tanks are currently unavailable while the company moves. Would you recommend the removable or molded in filter box?
Posted on Monday Jul 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM  
I've always had the removeable - you can pull the box leave the pump running, drop it into the lake,swish it around and clear collected slime from the intake -no matter what you will have trouble with scales and slime - especially when using salt in summer -
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Posted on Monday Jul 8, 2013 at 3:13 PM  
Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.
Posted on Wednesday Jul 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM  
baitjacuzzi.com You might want to check with this guy - he is a new mfg.
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Posted on Sunday Jul 21, 2013 at 8:43 PM  
Tony, What kind of 12V air pumps do you use and where do you buy them? I just bought a 40 gallon Grayline and I've noticed my shad "bleeding" in this heat after they have been in the tank for 6 or 8 hours. Also, do you simply drop the stones in the tank?
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Originally posted by Tony_Hughes
I'd go for at least a thirty gallon for two fisherman - you can usually keep about 60-80 3-5" baits in that size PROVIDED you use a couple of 12V air pumps and stones - even in the Greyline this will help your bait tremendously -- All Greyline are oval or round -so no worries there I want Sunshine to make me a slimline oval that holds 35 gallons - Look also at Creekbankbaittanks.com Its nice to have a manf tank --
Posted on Sunday Jul 21, 2013 at 11:36 PM  
TMJ, please describe the appearance of "shad bleeding". Is it five to eight red splotches on different parts of the body?
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Posted on Monday Jul 22, 2013 at 7:33 AM  
It actually looks like a little blood seeping through the fish. It doesn't really look like a blotch it looks more like I had a little blood on my hands and smeared it on the shad. Most look fine in the bait tank and it seems to appear before I can get them hooked and back in the water. I don't think I'm being too rough with them.
Posted on Monday Jul 22, 2013 at 9:10 AM  
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baitjacuzzi.com You might want to check with this guy - he is a new mfg.
Those look pretty sharp! I've always wanted to be able to create my own mold.
Posted on Monday Jul 22, 2013 at 9:16 AM  
I've had shad die with an appearance somewhat like you describe. My shad tend to die with what I call red blotches in multiple places on their bodies. Some friends thought it was oxygen so I added another air pump; and after that I added yet another air pump. I think that helped some, but did not fix this problem. I think it's got something to do with not overcrowding during the transfer - and the water quality during the transfer / and possibly with a lack of fish hauling chemical. On a recent trip I got too many (put ~ 130 mid to larger shad in a 35 gal tank) and before I could get home the water quality became very bad and overwhelmed the filter - lots of scales in the water. Nearly all of them died within a two days. So, on the next trip I was careful to not overwhelm my transfer tank, and I treated them very delicately - not getting too many in the dip net and such. And my survival rate went up to 70%. Chemicals: I have also not been using any chemical (shad saver / fish hauling stuff) in the water other than the salt. Now I'm wondering that during these hot days, that these chemicals might be more important because they might be adding an ingrediant to drug the shad into not being stressed. I'm not sure. All I've heard is that the toughest time to keep shad alive is during the heat of the summer - and thats what I'm finding. Sure wish I could find some chemical that doesn't break the bank to purchase, cause my first wife cut back on my fishing related allowance :-)
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Posted on Monday Jul 22, 2013 at 10:25 AM  
If you use a separate chlorine eliminator you can cut your shad keeper use in half. However, I'm still having problems and I'm using all the chemicals. My shad seem really frisky till I put them in the lake, even after they get over the initial shock of the lake water being warmer than the bait tank they die quickly. I think this time of year you just have to catch your shad on the same day as you plan to fish.
Posted on Monday Jul 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM  
Interesting link on numerous bait tank problem possibilities. It's weighted toward selling SureLife products, but it's still informative. I think I might have an ammonia problem. http://www.sure-life.com/baitPS.html
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